| moadeep |
Posted: January 27, 2007 - 10:09pm |
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The walk-of-shamers in seattle were awesome. a bunch of us hung out outside and there was a chick who'd auditioned who was making everybody sing and taping them. lotta fun.
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| Beatngu86 |
Posted: January 29, 2007 - 4:03pm |
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| dave this is ridiculous, the show is about ratings and making money obviously, and its a singing competition, put 2 and 2 together, they need good singers to get people interested and voting for them, they do not turn down great singers, yes they pass on the bad ones in the audition rounds...because its hilarious, BUT theyre not stupid and know that after the auditions are over they better have some good singers, or there would be no american idol, they send home the ones who cant sing, they would not send home a great singer if the singer could make the show money, youre ignoring common sense, and i dont think this whole "truth about the auditions" article is shocking in the least, people watch AI after the auditions are over cause its teh good singers time, so why would they turn great singers down if they could make the ratings higher? that makes absolutely no sense at all, the people complaining that they send home the supposedly good singers, are the people who tried out and got rejected, and we all know by now that the people who get turned down who claim theyre good singers are just like the delusional idiots we see on the tv
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| thefunnystone |
Posted: January 31, 2007 - 10:19am |
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| Being that you are the same idiot who told me that I don't have to pay for bandwidth on the website because the internet is free, I take absolutely nothing you say seriously. Again, talking about things you know nothing about is your specialty, huh? ;-) |
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| stingray11214 |
Posted: February 6, 2007 - 9:06pm |
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| Look, if the show was about singing ONLY, no way in hell does Kellie, Bucky, Kevin and Melissa get on. If it was about singing ONLY, you would not have the massive cattle calls for this. It is about making good TV, and ONLY about making good TV. Look at "RockStar". That show even turned down PWE! They are about singing and talent. That is why the ratings are bad for them. They at least have SOME integrity. |
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| FirePaula |
Posted: February 20, 2007 - 6:41pm |
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| Very illuminating article. Nicely done.
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| jomama423 |
Posted: March 1, 2007 - 12:32am |
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| See, there's one thing that actually bothers me about this article. While most if it is absolutely spot-on, using sources like Jen Sieminski is poor form. Why? Well, because of the motivation. As anyone who knows her will tell you, she's not good. At singing. Performing. Or other things. So, when someone like her flames all these other contestants who did well (like McPhee, who I adore), it's a total crock. I'm sure many great singers didn't make it through because they got a bad producer or they were boring. But those singers probably won't be crying to this web site. They'll be getting jobs as singers. |
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| vftwJackAss |
Posted: March 1, 2007 - 9:16pm |
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| Wow! This is supposed to be revealing? This is supposed to be something we couldn't figure out for ourselves? What a bunch of tards! |
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| rocky75111 |
Posted: March 7, 2007 - 10:54am |
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Hello, I watch Idol, I like the show, it is "entertaining". Nothing against your article or you. It was written very well. But, I think the only people that would have learned anything from it are frikkin idiots. Anyone who actually believes in those myths that you have stated need their heads checked. Letting bad people through is all part of TV. Think about it, how good would the show be if we had to sit and listen to Celine Dion and Josh Groban. The bad singers and idots make for good TV. Again well written article but not to revieling to people of average intelligence. |
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| JKR |
Posted: March 15, 2007 - 6:05pm |
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hmm. isn't that best part of all this that never ONCE has Dave here been called a liar? I think that American Idol is an American Scam although I do believe that Kelly Clarkson was a small exception to the rules. I believe that she could've made it big without that british arse hole, anyway. A few weeks ago, I had a substitute teacher that was on AI. He was a great singer and did get through to see the judges (oh, poor him, he had to spend several minutes in Simon's presense). But he told me that the girl in front of him DID NOT CRY and HER RESPONSE FROM THE JUDGES WAS DIFFERENT ON TV. Reality TV? shh, more like Scammers on Demand. William Hung rocks though. he almost made me like AI. |
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| tuneman570 |
Posted: March 16, 2007 - 7:39pm |
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Good article! Strange how people don't realize AI is all about entertaining television. And as such, they CAN'T pass people through who are so amazing they'd blow everyone away. It would be no contest. I'd love to hear that Taylor Hicks story, though, in as much detail as possible! I like how people are sometimes surprised that people who seem to be sweet and lovely on TV could be royal bitches to work with. Trust me; I know of at least two cases of stars (One Broadway actress and one film actress) who you would all recognize and who have great reputations and have been complete dicks to the people around them. One of them prompted a well-respected music director to say aloud "i wish Patti LuPone were in this show." The other threw a chair at a dresser because she didn't like the the costume selected for her. If miss McPhee was an arrogant beyotch backstage, i'm not shocked. |
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Could the show be turning down real talent? Could there be more to the audition process than we all think? Of course! Votefortheworst.com has known all about the ridiculous audition process for quite some time, so we’ve decided to do even more research to show you what really goes down at the cattle calls. If you think that American Idol is actually a talent competition, read on, and let us change your mind.
AUDITION MYTH #1: "The auditions take place over one or two days and everyone gets to see Simon, Paula, and Randy."
In actuality, the contestants are at the auditions for about a week before they even see the Loathsome Threesome. An MSNBC article explains:
So the wannabe Idols first have to try out in groups of four for a number of random producers. Then, they try out one-by-one in front of the executive producers. And finally, they try out in front of our favorite boozehound and her cohorts. This is why so many people lose their jobs to try out for the show; they have to attend auditions for a week before they even know if they’re going to Hollywood.
So what happens during these earlier auditions? Well for one thing, those obnoxious song montages that usually end the episodes are filmed then. It’s not a coincidence that all of the bad singers decided to sing the same song. Jennifer Sieminski, who made it to Hollywood during American Idol's fifth season, admits that those segments are not “even recorded in front of Simon, Paula and Randy.”
Apparently, each city has a “city song” that everyone must sing so that the producers can make the lame montages. The producers even force the people who audition to wear the same clothes to each audition so the viewers at home think the auditions all took place over the span of 1 or 2 days. They messed up with Crystal Parizanski, the overly tan girl who auditioned in Chicago for American Idol 5, who was wearing a completely different outfit during the “Lady Marmalade” montage at the end of the episode. This obviously showed that she had been there for at least a few days.
AUDITION MYTH #2: "We see a truthful depiction of each audition."
Obviously all television shows use editing to condense footage and tell stories. Reality TV, though, is particularly guilty of using editing to completely change the facts of a situation and craft stories that didn’t happen. The fact that so many rounds of auditions exist provide the producers with ample footage to cut and paste as they please. Robert Solomon (check out his MySpace), the movie projectionist who tried out for American Idol 4, was surprised to see himself singing “Dancing in the Streets” in front of the celebrity judges when his audition episode aired, because “Dancing” was the city song he was forced to sing:
So apparently, the show even goes back to record extra judge commentary that didn’t even take place. Obviously, the point of having week-long auditions isn’t just to weed out the singers the producers don’t want; it’s also to get extra footage to splice in at different points. Robert goes into more detail to prove his point for those who might not believe him, explaining that he “had also helped them out by wearing the same outfit to both auditions” as we pointed out. He also made the following valid points on why it’s obvious that the events didn’t happen the way we saw them in the show:
The producers must have found Robert’s “Dancing in the Street” much more amusing than his actual audition in front of the judges, so they used that instead. Of course, if Robert’s audition was creatively edited, it’s highly likely that most of the other auditions were as well.
AUDITION MYTH #3: "The bad singers are not encouraged by the producers."
Crystal Parizanski looked silly during her time on the show due in part to her excessive use of makeup. But was that her choice? Crystal talked to Mix 96 Montreal in a radio interview about her experience on the show. She had this to say:
Now Crystal doesn’t come off as a beacon of intelligence, but it does make it a little less funny when someone like her was tricked into looking stupider. Crystal also mentioned in the interview how her time on the show was edited and that the producers took clips from some of her auditions and put them together to make her look dumber.
AUDITION MYTH #4: "The good singers always make it through."
Even if there are many stages to the audition process, it seems like the good singers will always triumph and continue on in the competition. The producers only like to mess with the bad singers, right? Well, that's not correct at all either. In fact, the first judging process is so ridiculously random, we wonder why anyone even bothers to try out.
As we previously mentioned, the first round of auditions takes place in front of a group producers at a table, who likely aren’t even very qualified to judge a competition (then again, this never stopped Simon, Paula, and Randy). Each singer tries out with 3 other singers for these producers. After singing for a mere 15 seconds, you are told whether you’re moving on or going home. The producers are usually only on the lookout for people with stories that will sell on TV or people who will make incredible fools of themselves. One auditioner figured out that there are good tables and bad tables, meaning that it's possible that the bad tables just pass on everyone and won’t let anyone through to the next round. What if a good singer gets stuck at a bad table? Well, good luck next year! Blogger Matthew Paul David wrote about his experience at the Seattle auditions:
Of course, this sounds highly technical and very efficient at making sure all good singers get through to the next round… not. Afraidofpop shared her audition experience at the East Rutherford auditions this year:
Obviously if you’re going to cut someone who blows an entire room away, the process is either flawed or not really looking for good singers.
AUDITION MYTH #5: "Everyone has a shot at becoming the American Idol."
Jennifer also mentions in that interview that Katharine McPhee was acting like a gigantic bitch all week and that the two of them had a fight on camera.
This confrontation was obviously never shown because the show was painting Katharine as the humble girl with a beautiful voice. Of course, by the end of the show it was fairly obvious that Katharine was indeed a spoiled brat who forgot lyrics quite a few times because it’s tough to edit something out of a live show. But the producers got their “humble, sweet girl” contestant in Katharine for quite a while before her true colors came out.
Basically, the American Idol auditions are not actually auditions for a singing competition; they’re auditions for a reality television show. Why haven’t we heard more about this before? Well the people who make it to the finals are happy to have made it that far and have no bone to pick, and people tend to not believe the complaints of the contestants who were edited poorly. Also, all of the contestants (even William Hung and other people who don’t make it far at all) have to sign ridiculously long contracts that forbid them from revealing Idol’s secrets. Still don’t believe us? How about hearing it straight from the horse’s mouth? Idol producer Ken Warwick interviewed with Foxes on Idol last year. In one section, Kenny admits that the Austin auditions for season 5 were edited very creatively:
While this may have been about one isolated incident, the Austin auditions, Kenny said, “Clearly, that didn’t happen the way it is, we add things.” And if the producers have no problem leaving out that a giant hurricane made them bring certain auditioners to other cities, they certainly don’t have a problem changing smaller details as well.
__________________________So what advice do we have for the budding American Idol hopeful? First of all, don’t try out. If you’re actually talented, there are many better ways to get your name out there. But if you must try out, at least invent some kind of good story. Cry a lot on camera. Basically become a fame whore like Kellie Pickler. The producers love that. Most of all, don’t have a mind of your own like Taylor Hicks, who refused to sing his coronation song until a new one was written for him. It might make the producers mad that their puppet is talking back to them. Though if you’re willing to sell your dignity, American Idol may actually be the perfect venue for you! Just don’t say we didn’t warn you.