| 80Amps |
Posted: April 10, 2007 - 9:48am |
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| And by the way, Dave (I think that’s the name of this site’s publisher) has explicitly expressed his wish to promote the clowns on the show at the expense of the talented competitors. He thinks the clowns are more entertaining. That’s his justification for voting for the worst. KT and yourself on the other hand have expressed a wish that the show would promote more of the talent and less of the clowns. Ironically though, you support the intentions of this site. Seems self contradictory to me. Don’t fuss. I hear where KT and you are coming from. It’s Dave that’s self- contradicting. I’ve read interviews of him on other sites. Apparently, the guy lacks even the smallest inkling of integrity. I think he probably just has much growing up to do. |
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| stacyjoi |
Posted: April 10, 2007 - 10:22am |
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| Who the hell cares if they want to do some creative editing to make a show? It is what it is...a freaking TELEVISION show and everyone knows that there is some major editing involved in making ANY reality show. If you don't know this then you've been living in a box the last few years of the reality show craze. You know what? Good for American Idol for trying to make the show more entertaining for us! I enjoy the auditions, good and bad, whether or not it actually happened like it did. You can't edit the singing itself, so the people are still represented accurately in my opinion. And those that want to cry because they may be a good singer and didn't make it on the show...SO FREAKING WHAT? Try another avenue - American Idol isn't the only way to get your foot in the door if you are serious about the music business...it might just be a harder road to travel. Go figure...hard work and perserverence might actually make someone successful instead of counting on TV to make it happen for you! I say edit away, Fox - thanks for making it more interesting. |
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| SingerBoy69 |
Posted: April 10, 2007 - 3:59pm |
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Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Well even after reading this I am going to try. I know I can sing and I know I am not the best. I do know that if I do make it, I will show the world my talent. American Idol is supposed to be based on that, they may not be but who knows. If I get far enough on the show maybe someone REAL will notice me. I try out june 11th of this yr, and I don't expect to make it to the judges, but I do want and hope to get past at least the first round.
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I am trying for American Idol June 11th, If I make it I know you want have me to vftw :)
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| smilelikeumeanit26 |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 12:18am |
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Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Here is a novel idea: Don't like it? Don't watch it. Quit ruining it for those of us who do watch Idol. OF COURSE they are going to put through the ones that look good but only sing "ok", regardless, Kelly Clarkson sings circles around EVERY Idol ever crowned, and will continue to do so. Sanjaya must go. Vote For The Worst doesn't even have the worst one picked. Phil Stacey, Haley Scarnato? Come on guys. Seriously. |
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| cra8zynut |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 11:07am |
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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| I think this site is appalling. There are people that really like to watch American Idol. So what!!! if the auditions aren't fair. This is an immature way of dealing with what you don't agree with. I believe that American Idol should limit the number of calls to 10 per caller and perhaps we would see who really can sing and who cannot. This would be the solution and would basically shut down a site like this. OH but no, they want you to come here so they can get paid from the advertising, you all just don't get it. At least AI is contributing to a good cause because of it's fame!! I don't see this site doing that.
Each week our family sits and watches AI, and it is a shame that people like you have to ruin a show that loved by many families. There are shows with crime, sex, horror, etc. and you have degrade a show that is suitable for everyone!! Shame on you!
Ok bring it on, I am ready to hear how you feel or should I say "justify" turning something that is good into something bad!! |
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| imswmgrl |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 11:09am |
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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| I don't think only 10 calls per person would stop people from voting for Sanjaya. All they have to do is use all of the cell phones they can find to vote for Sanjaya a million times. |
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| imswmgrl |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 11:13am |
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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| When I read this article, you convinced me to realize how dumb this show really is. It really is all for the entertainment. I always kind of wondered how the judges could see all of those people in two days. Now I know that a lot of talented people are rejected before they even SEE the judges. |
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| angelbug32 |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 1:25pm |
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| I AGREE~!
Why do you have to depict a decent show that the entire family can sit down together and watch when there are many other shows showing nudity, drug usage, alcohol abuse, and sex scandals.... a decent person would try to undermine those type of shows... but no those are the type that you watch ... correct??? why do you have to convince people to vote for the worst....??? this isnt a game to blake, lakeisha,jordan, and melinda.... they deserve to be there! although so did stephanie and jarod cotter two of my favorites! however ... sanjaya needs to leave... why you may ask??? HA!~ because he's a disgrace to the show...
u think its funny to show up simon cowell by voting for the worst? well honey get up there and do his job better...
even though simon may be harsh... at least he has the decency to tell someone when they're bad... and when they wont have a chance in the real world... do you realize how crushed sanjaya will be if he wins american idol and sells only records to his family? he wont make any money and then he'll get online and see that he was your canidate to vote for the worst... you have no common decency or respect for people... and neither does anyone supporting you...
so i would just like to say thanks for ruining one of the only perfectly decent shows out there...
get a life... because this is childish and pathetic...
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| angelbug32 |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 1:27pm |
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| wow... i got on here and left the same type of comment...
isnt it idiotic?
i hate this site! it undermines everything Idol is!
they know how to ruin a perfectly decent show dont they?
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| angelbug32 |
Posted: April 11, 2007 - 1:42pm |
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| vote
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Could the show be turning down real talent? Could there be more to the audition process than we all think? Of course! Votefortheworst.com has known all about the ridiculous audition process for quite some time, so we’ve decided to do even more research to show you what really goes down at the cattle calls. If you think that American Idol is actually a talent competition, read on, and let us change your mind.
AUDITION MYTH #1: "The auditions take place over one or two days and everyone gets to see Simon, Paula, and Randy."
In actuality, the contestants are at the auditions for about a week before they even see the Loathsome Threesome. An MSNBC article explains:
So the wannabe Idols first have to try out in groups of four for a number of random producers. Then, they try out one-by-one in front of the executive producers. And finally, they try out in front of our favorite boozehound and her cohorts. This is why so many people lose their jobs to try out for the show; they have to attend auditions for a week before they even know if they’re going to Hollywood.
So what happens during these earlier auditions? Well for one thing, those obnoxious song montages that usually end the episodes are filmed then. It’s not a coincidence that all of the bad singers decided to sing the same song. Jennifer Sieminski, who made it to Hollywood during American Idol's fifth season, admits that those segments are not “even recorded in front of Simon, Paula and Randy.”
Apparently, each city has a “city song” that everyone must sing so that the producers can make the lame montages. The producers even force the people who audition to wear the same clothes to each audition so the viewers at home think the auditions all took place over the span of 1 or 2 days. They messed up with Crystal Parizanski, the overly tan girl who auditioned in Chicago for American Idol 5, who was wearing a completely different outfit during the “Lady Marmalade” montage at the end of the episode. This obviously showed that she had been there for at least a few days.
AUDITION MYTH #2: "We see a truthful depiction of each audition."
Obviously all television shows use editing to condense footage and tell stories. Reality TV, though, is particularly guilty of using editing to completely change the facts of a situation and craft stories that didn’t happen. The fact that so many rounds of auditions exist provide the producers with ample footage to cut and paste as they please. Robert Solomon (check out his MySpace), the movie projectionist who tried out for American Idol 4, was surprised to see himself singing “Dancing in the Streets” in front of the celebrity judges when his audition episode aired, because “Dancing” was the city song he was forced to sing:
So apparently, the show even goes back to record extra judge commentary that didn’t even take place. Obviously, the point of having week-long auditions isn’t just to weed out the singers the producers don’t want; it’s also to get extra footage to splice in at different points. Robert goes into more detail to prove his point for those who might not believe him, explaining that he “had also helped them out by wearing the same outfit to both auditions” as we pointed out. He also made the following valid points on why it’s obvious that the events didn’t happen the way we saw them in the show:
The producers must have found Robert’s “Dancing in the Street” much more amusing than his actual audition in front of the judges, so they used that instead. Of course, if Robert’s audition was creatively edited, it’s highly likely that most of the other auditions were as well.
AUDITION MYTH #3: "The bad singers are not encouraged by the producers."
Crystal Parizanski looked silly during her time on the show due in part to her excessive use of makeup. But was that her choice? Crystal talked to Mix 96 Montreal in a radio interview about her experience on the show. She had this to say:
Now Crystal doesn’t come off as a beacon of intelligence, but it does make it a little less funny when someone like her was tricked into looking stupider. Crystal also mentioned in the interview how her time on the show was edited and that the producers took clips from some of her auditions and put them together to make her look dumber.
AUDITION MYTH #4: "The good singers always make it through."
Even if there are many stages to the audition process, it seems like the good singers will always triumph and continue on in the competition. The producers only like to mess with the bad singers, right? Well, that's not correct at all either. In fact, the first judging process is so ridiculously random, we wonder why anyone even bothers to try out.
As we previously mentioned, the first round of auditions takes place in front of a group producers at a table, who likely aren’t even very qualified to judge a competition (then again, this never stopped Simon, Paula, and Randy). Each singer tries out with 3 other singers for these producers. After singing for a mere 15 seconds, you are told whether you’re moving on or going home. The producers are usually only on the lookout for people with stories that will sell on TV or people who will make incredible fools of themselves. One auditioner figured out that there are good tables and bad tables, meaning that it's possible that the bad tables just pass on everyone and won’t let anyone through to the next round. What if a good singer gets stuck at a bad table? Well, good luck next year! Blogger Matthew Paul David wrote about his experience at the Seattle auditions:
Of course, this sounds highly technical and very efficient at making sure all good singers get through to the next round… not. Afraidofpop shared her audition experience at the East Rutherford auditions this year:
Obviously if you’re going to cut someone who blows an entire room away, the process is either flawed or not really looking for good singers.
AUDITION MYTH #5: "Everyone has a shot at becoming the American Idol."
Jennifer also mentions in that interview that Katharine McPhee was acting like a gigantic bitch all week and that the two of them had a fight on camera.
This confrontation was obviously never shown because the show was painting Katharine as the humble girl with a beautiful voice. Of course, by the end of the show it was fairly obvious that Katharine was indeed a spoiled brat who forgot lyrics quite a few times because it’s tough to edit something out of a live show. But the producers got their “humble, sweet girl” contestant in Katharine for quite a while before her true colors came out.
Basically, the American Idol auditions are not actually auditions for a singing competition; they’re auditions for a reality television show. Why haven’t we heard more about this before? Well the people who make it to the finals are happy to have made it that far and have no bone to pick, and people tend to not believe the complaints of the contestants who were edited poorly. Also, all of the contestants (even William Hung and other people who don’t make it far at all) have to sign ridiculously long contracts that forbid them from revealing Idol’s secrets. Still don’t believe us? How about hearing it straight from the horse’s mouth? Idol producer Ken Warwick interviewed with Foxes on Idol last year. In one section, Kenny admits that the Austin auditions for season 5 were edited very creatively:
While this may have been about one isolated incident, the Austin auditions, Kenny said, “Clearly, that didn’t happen the way it is, we add things.” And if the producers have no problem leaving out that a giant hurricane made them bring certain auditioners to other cities, they certainly don’t have a problem changing smaller details as well.
__________________________So what advice do we have for the budding American Idol hopeful? First of all, don’t try out. If you’re actually talented, there are many better ways to get your name out there. But if you must try out, at least invent some kind of good story. Cry a lot on camera. Basically become a fame whore like Kellie Pickler. The producers love that. Most of all, don’t have a mind of your own like Taylor Hicks, who refused to sing his coronation song until a new one was written for him. It might make the producers mad that their puppet is talking back to them. Though if you’re willing to sell your dignity, American Idol may actually be the perfect venue for you! Just don’t say we didn’t warn you.