| easilydissolved |
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| You know, I think that revealing American Idol's voting system to be rigged wouldn't be that much of a suprise. It'd be like Barry Bonds admitting to steroids, or Clay Aiken admitting to be gay. |
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| John Jacob |
| Posted: May 19, 2007 - 11:08am |
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| insanely long and insanely brilliant, keelhaulrose!
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| 80Amps |
| Posted: May 19, 2007 - 1:16pm |
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| I can think of a couple feasible reasons why the producers would not want to release the vote counts. For one, they fear it might bias the voting on subsequent weeks. For example, over the past few weeks, VFTW was been on the fence about who their new chosen one was going to be each week. Those decisions would have been a lot easier had they known who has been receiving the less votes. Ideally, the producers want people to vote based on the quality of the performances (or so they claim). Knowing the vote count would probably tend to bias the voters against that. Secondly, releasing the vote counts would probably cause even more controversy. People would be accusing the competition of being fixed even more, except they then would be pointing to the totals (weekly and accumulative) of particular contestants. For example, if contestant A blows out contestant B on one week, and then a week latter A get eliminated with B remaining safe, (which can easily happen), then people would be like, “OMG! How could that be! This is fixed!” Blah, Blah, Blah. |
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| Clyde |
| Posted: May 19, 2007 - 5:50pm |
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| [quote]I can think of a couple feasible reasons why the producers would not want to release the vote counts. For one, they fear it might bias the voting on subsequent weeks. For example, over the past few weeks, VFTW was been on the fence about who their new chosen one was going to be each week. Those decisions would have been a lot easier had they known who has been receiving the less votes. Ideally, the producers want people to vote based on the quality of the performances (or so they claim). Knowing the vote count would probably tend to bias the voters against that. Secondly, releasing the vote counts would probably cause even more controversy. People would be accusing the competition of being fixed even more, except they then would be pointing to the totals (weekly and accumulative) of particular contestants. For example, if contestant A blows out contestant B on one week, and then a week latter A get eliminated with B remaining safe, (which can easily happen), then people would be like, “OMG! How could that be! This is fixed!” Blah, Blah, Blah.[/quote]
Your reasoning is so flawed I'm not sure if I should even bother with it.
Even if they thought the vote count would influence people from week to week there would be absolutely no reason at all not to release all the weekly vote totals at the end of the season would there? But they won't even do that. And still, you did not answer the main million dollar question which is why not hire an outside independent auditing company and company with no ties to the show or the producers to see that everything is on the up and up? That alone would kill your argument and end any speculation. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Second, you automatically assume for some reason that VFTW would simply pick a contestant based on those vote totals. Obviously then you know nothing about why and how and for what reason VFTW picks it's contestants because it has nothing to do with who is getting what votes.
Your comment that the producers want people to vote for the one with the most talent is a joke and not even worth arguing about. The fact is that every week when they show who is in the bottom three or bottom two they are influencing the votes every bit as much as they would be by releasing the vote totals. There is absolutely no difference and it is just another form of maniuplation.
One need look no further than the "Idol Gives Back" results show when they went down to Jordin as the last contestant before saying everybody was safe. Idiot sheep who watch this show still say it was terrible what they did to poor Jordin (she with the drama queen tears) but I guarantee you that each and every one of those contestants knew they were safe including Jordin. Now if that isn't manipulation, I don't know what the hell is.
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| beav |
| Posted: May 19, 2007 - 2:12pm |
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| Oops, I think this may all be a spoof. Look at this link:
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s4i18941 |
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| sonr |
| Posted: May 19, 2007 - 5:24pm |
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| there were lots of uncounted votes. their system couldn't handle the number than came in. the phone lines not working in certain areas is what happened in season 3 when jennifer hudson and latoya london were voted off. i think they blamed it on weather conditions.
dial idol is skewed because now more and more people don't have land lines and not everyone has internet to download the programs. so you are just getting the votes of a perticular demographic. i guess that group liked melinda best.
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| sonr |
| Posted: May 19, 2007 - 5:29pm |
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| why would producers pick Taylor?
his album hasn't done anything. he does ads for small radio stations now. but i could see how he could win the votes, he was good family entertainment.
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| sweetheart8148 |
| Posted: May 20, 2007 - 3:28am |
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| LOL Smartie, you are quite observant, i thought the same thing. |
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| sweetheart8148 |
| Posted: May 20, 2007 - 3:44am |
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| I think tha the writer is an amateur who saw the Howard Stern Article and used it. they're probably skeptics of the American Idol conspiracy. Arugment for the sake of arguing. |
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| magooish |
| Posted: May 20, 2007 - 7:30am |
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| Hi 80amps, nice technical commentary per usual.
The one thing they could do to help aleviate the controversy is to do a historical revelation of the voting from the prior year. That would not create a bias for or against any current contestant, it would simply reassure the pubic that the voting was absolutely sound and the current winner is the real winner.
But they won't, because the risk of losing the cash cow that is AI is too high. And they mess with the votes...when it suits them.
Magooish
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This is a really interesting read from Howard 100 News. It talks about the possible rigging of American Idol and what the producers thought about VFTW this year, so make sure to click read more and check out the whole thing.
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