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smarterthanpickler
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Posted: 11/6/2008 at 2:57 PM
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I Run This Joint!
Joined: August 2006
Location: In your head
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<p> <em>Sure</em> it's fiction, just like the logo on its cover. </p> <p> &;nbsp; </p> <p> Idol's a massive cesspool about to overflow with crap. </p> <p> &;nbsp; </p> <p> &;nbsp; </p> <p> <em>...I thought this was weird: the performances would not be happening until the next day, and the eliminations a day after that, so there was no way to know who was going to be eliminated. Voting hadn’t even taken place yet for the show that they were rehearsing for.</em> </p> <p> &;nbsp; </p> <p> Admission the show is fixed. VFTW Victory!  </p>
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RaptorJesus69
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Posted: 11/6/2008 at 3:04 PM
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Friend of VFTW
Joined: September 2008
Location: Nazareth
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lip sticks, board games, video games huh
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Smartie
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Posted: 11/6/2008 at 3:19 PM
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I Run This Joint!
Joined: April 2007
Location: Tarding for Normund & Jackie
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Completely unsurprising. Anyone who wants to go on these slave ships should invest in a really good lawyer before signing ANYTHING, and protect their ass.
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sunshine8503
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Posted: 11/6/2008 at 3:35 PM
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Suck it, Bitches!
Joined: March 2007
Location: Self-important hypocrite & sadistic net nerd
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I hate Idol so very much. The way they use and abuse these contestants is sickning. And people still think this is a legit show. Dumbasses
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Rebel
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Posted: 11/6/2008 at 3:42 PM
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Joined: May 2007
Location: Hidden from view
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Regarding the "lipgloss and boar-game" Huh? comment. Well, the person who wrote it has to have some things in there that are completly ficticious, just to add more credence to the fact that it is a complete work of fiction, and that he/she is not releasing copyright material. If you google American Idol game you will get this link that sells a idol game. http://www.americanidol.com/games/ "Experience all the excitement of American Idol as you journey from Auditions, to Hollywood and onward to the Finals round of competition" I love it, by classifying it as a work of fiction, it is hard for AI to sue claiming violations, without admitting to the fact that their show is fixed. Their claim of course will be that people reading it will think that it is real, and that the book is ruining the good name that is AI. I believe that the standard of proof is what a "reasonable person" would assume after reading the book. WOuld a reasonable person read the book and assume that it was truth disguised as fiction, or purly a work of fiction? Since there are so many people who think that reality tv is real, who refuse to believe that the producers would fix the show, a good lawyer could probably prove that a reasonable person would only see it as a work of fiction.
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well im pissed off
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Posted: 11/7/2008 at 4:46 AM
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You Bastards
Joined: March 2008
Location: The Wetlands
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I can hear the law suites being printed up already. Will this book even make it to the shelves?
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jawajedi
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Posted: 11/7/2008 at 12:23 PM
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Will ideate for food
Joined: March 2007
Location: nefarious spoilsport
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Perhaps the authors planned ahead and hired some good lawlers
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Moxie
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Posted: 11/7/2008 at 2:51 PM
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Joined: May 2008
Location: Ohio
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"Contestant stand-ins"?! Good lord. I get that they need to have the right lighting to force the ousted performer to cry on cue, but why would they need to rehearse the same camera angles week after week??!! And to Smartie: I'm sure lawyers are not permitted, but surely parents are...so an under 17 contestant with a lawyer for a parent is what we need here.
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JohnnyDrama
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Posted: 11/8/2008 at 1:12 AM
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PaPa Fuck B**bs
Joined: March 2008
Location: Locked in a thread! Get me out of here!!
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So... the contestants can say... "fuck you" and not get exposure, and not sign to sing on national television. Or, they sign the papers and "hopefully" gain an audience they would never have had. I'm missing the point of this bullshit book. Sorry folks. I get how much of a shit fest this show is. Attacking the format is fun and amusing. To suggest that the "lid is being blown off" of behind the scenes bullshit cracks me the fuck up. This book is getting limited exposure on this site because the authors know that they "MIGHT" have an audience here. I suggest that this book is a lot of sour grapes from no talent opportunists who have the gravitas of a garbage truck driver!
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Mysterioso
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Posted: 11/8/2008 at 10:22 AM
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CUNT
Joined: April 2007
Location: In The Aether
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Johnny Drama is right. Looks like this "writer" reads this site, and decided to fictionalize things that we all know already to be true. Meh.
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"During this first weekend in town and in between the photo shoots and rehearsals, the contestants signed their lives away. They gave up all their rights for performances and music for the duration of the show and for several months, even years, after the show ended. While signing the contracts, they were promised two full days off a week, usually the day after the show and one day on the weekend. The other weekend day would be spent in a recording studio or shooting cheesy music videos for one of the show’s several sponsors. This agreement of two days off did not last long, as the parent company pimped the contestants out every way they could: from ice cream to lip gloss to board games and video games. Each time another deal came through, the contestants were required to do a photo shoot so they would have fresh photos and videos to go along with the products and help with the marketing.
After two weeks into the live shows, the only time off the contestants had was at night, when they slept. The contestants were a little disappointed to learn that they would be earning considerably less per week than they all had originally thought. One would think that the contestants would be paid very well, especially since they were bringing in millions of dollars a week for the parent company. This was hardly the case: they were paid the bare minimum each week for their performances. I am sure it was more than any of them made on a weekly basis before they started the show, but they could have been paid a lot more. In my opinion, they deserved more, as did everyone else involved with the show, including myself.
The songs the
contestants sang each week came from a preapproved list, and the singers each
had the opportunity to pick the song they wanted. Once they picked the song,
they rehearsed for a day, singing the song that they chose, then Andy and James
would have the opportunity to listen to each contestant perform their song. If
they did not like the way the singers performed the song, they were forced to
change it, even if the contestant did not like or wasn’t familiar with any of
the other songs that were on the weekly preapproved list.
This was very unfortunate; some of the contestants were critiqued by the judges harshly over the way they sang or because of their song choice, when in all actuality Andy and James forced them to sing the songs that they did.
To me this was always odd. I had my suspicions even before I started working on the show that people on the inside might have a hand in crowning the winner. Nothing confirmed my suspicions more than something that happened one day during rehearsals, which are closed-door. Only a limited number of people are allowed onto the soundstage: the rehearsals were done with contestant stand-ins, not the true contestants.
This was always off-limits to me, but in the middle of season I was given an urgent message to be delivered to a staff member who just happened to be sitting in on the rehearsals. So I made my way downstairs and over to the door that led to the soundstage where a security guard was standing. After reading the message, he opened the door and let me enter.
I entered from behind the stage and walked along the right wall, around to the front of the stage where the individual was sitting. Andy and James were up on stage with the stand-ins, making sure the camera operators knew how the elimination was going to unfold, where to focus the camera, and which contestant to follow. I thought this was weird: the performances would not be happening until the next day, and the eliminations a day after that, so there was no way to know who was going to be eliminated. Voting hadn’t even taken place yet for the show that they were rehearsing for.
All the stand-ins had the contestants’ names whom they were standing in for written on two large stickers, one on their chest and one on their back. It was very clear who was representing whom. I stood in the back for a few minutes because the person I needed to deliver the message to was busy discussing the show with Andy and James. I didn’t want to interrupt, so I waited my turn.
I continued to watch as Andy and James could not make up their minds as to how they wanted to make the elimination happen. After running out of options and getting frustrated, they used a previous routine that was used a couple of weeks before.
I waited until Andy announced that the rehearsals were wrapped for the day before I delivered the message and returned to the office upstairs. As I watched the live show unfold the next day, I thought that all of the contestants did very well, except for two of the male contestants. I figured that both would be in the bottom group the following day and that one of them would be eliminated from the show and sent packing. Many of the people in the office thought the same thing that I did, so we were all shocked when one of the best performers was eliminated the following day.
After the office calmed down following the shock of the elimination, I finished the last few things I needed to get done before my fifteen-hour day was over and I could head home. While I was driving home, it dawned on me that the person who had been eliminated was the same person who had been eliminated during the closed-door rehearsals just two days before.
That was too much of a coincidence for me. From that day on, I figured that people on the inside had a hand in how the results of the show were handled."