Soooooo basically because I don't hate Adam, I don't deserve to post here, "Kid"?

My pointers are warnings to any potential pro-Adam posters that these are the assumptions everyone will make about you, so don't bother to dispute any of these "truths" or you will just get made fun of more. And you proved my point beautifully-- you cursed me out and advised me to fall into a ditch.

Why is it that if you don't agree with The Prevailing Popular Viewpoint on VFTW on Subject X, you are a tool, retarded, smelly, fat, ugly, fashionably challenged, (insert random insult here)? I am proud to be a Vote for the Worster AND an Adam fan. (Although really if I'm being honest, the only song of his I actually like is "Whataya Want From Me," so I guess that makes me a "sparklecentaur" rather than a "sparklecow?"). The two are not mutually exclusive. My viewpoint that he is not the worst performer and human being since Hitler does not make my posts any less valuable then your "OOoo I'mma get you for being such a tard" posts.

I have come across your kind many a time. Instead of presenting coherent arguments about why Person/Place/Thing A is better than Person/Place/Thing B, your kind chooses to just say "Person who supports A is a doody face! I hope you die!"

So thanks for the enlightening post you gave me. I will take your advice to heart and immediately look for a ditch into which I can hurl myself. The shame of what I posted is truly tearing me apart inside.

Oh, and by the way, you need to relearn the definition of troll. A troll is someone who deliberately walks into a website in praise of something (or against something) and spams the forum repeatedly with verbal flamethrower-y remarks attempting to start a riot of weeping and gnashing of teeth.

A) This is not an anti-Adam website. I see nothing in the site's title about "We Hate Adam Lambert Fanclub." It is a site encouraging people to vote for bad but entertaining folks to screw with the producers and fans of "American Idol." Last time I checked, all viewpoints are allowed, although The Popular Viewpoint is that Adam suxxorz.

B) I am a VERY infrequent poster. I visit this site at least once a week to catch up on all the dirt Dave digs up and the hilarious recaps, but I only comment when I see something truly ridiculous and/or interesting.

So basically, and I'm sure this will cause you to tell me to "F*** off" or some equally intelligent phrase, all I'm saying is "person with dissenting viewpoint does not always equal troll."

Now if I came back here and started posting 20 posts a day about the greatness that is Adam for no apparent reason and particularly in topics that have nothing to do with him (e.g., "Angela gets record contract") and started calling everyone who disagreed with me retarded, THEN you might have a troll on your hands.

I too get annoyed with trolls. You mentioned you have had to deal with pro-Darwinism trolls on Intelligent Design boards. Well, I used to belong to a debate website, and any time I would post something remotely pro-Christian, my posts would be flooded with people telling me how stupid I am, using the worst language possible (my personal opinion on swearing and namecalling is that it's fine every once and a while, but if that's all you have going for you in a dialogue, it's really sad), and saying the most blasphemous things possible. Those, my friend, were trolls.

People of your ilk rarely abide facts and logic. You'll use any propaganda tactic, smokescreen or logical fallacy you can think of. Earlier in this thread, I made a coherent argument (an observation actually) for why Adam's behavior would not be considered "universally preferable." I was accused of defending the cell phone girl (which I did not) and insulting the poster I was responding to (again which I did not). Of course, I went on to insult them for real, but then they had it coming to them. I have no problem with people having a contrarian viewpoint from mine, as long as they can back it up. But I've lost all patience for trolls. I guess I'm taking it out on you. Oh well.

ETA: Fine, maybe you're not a complete troll. But you have trollish tendencies. Maybe you should take a step back from your Adam worship and consider the possibility that he may not be as virtuous a person as you think.

I am abandoning this thread as hopeless. Don't bother responding.

Thank you for at least refraining from telling me to die this time, Kid. I know you said you're done responding, so cool, but I just wanted to toss in one last note... I do not have Adam worship. I like his version of "Mad World" and I like "Whataya Want From Me." I have seen his CD (my boss has it), laughed my head off at the ridiculous pictures inside, and decided the rest of the album was crap. But I guess because I like two of his songs and don't think everything he does equals eating live babies whole, that makes me a sparklecow. I just think there shouldn't be this whole "Person A doesn't think Person B and Person B's music is the worst garbage in the history of garbageville therefore Person A is a stinkypoopants and must be relentlessly haranged" thing going on. Lumping everyone into camps of "fantards" is in some cases appropriate (I'm pointing at YOU, Aperilla), but not everyone is cut from the same cloth.

And Kid, props to you for using the word ilk. I love cool words like that. No, I'm not being a jerk, I'm serious. I like when people actually have good vocabularies and such. It gets very irritating corresponding with people who honestly think things like "2gether" and "h8r" are the foundation of Webster's dictionary. Good day to you.

Damn did she deserve that. Shut the F**k up lady.

Grandma? Chill out nutjob!