X Factor Mentoring Premise Is A Joke

Posted by smarterthanpickler on Friday, November 16, 2012 at 5:12 PM EST
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VFTW has known for ages that the mentoring premise on X Factor is bullshit; I even wrote an article about it two years ago. Cracks on the American version have been appearing over the past couple of weeks, first when Simon changed Emblem3's song 24 hours before their performance (5:18 mark), and this week when he did the same to Lyric 145 (at start of video). This begs the question: Where was mentor Simon all week while his acts were flailing around? As it turns out, it doesn't matter as it's the producers, not the mentors, whom decide what songs the acts are going to do, how they're going to look and everything else on this show. And now X Factor may have gotten more than they bargained for when they revealed the voting totals as the contestants at the bottom of the rankings and their mentors are letting their rage out on the Producers, the true controllers of this show.

Read on to discover all the rage and deception...

Beatrice Miller, a mainstay at the bottom of the rankings, this week hated her performance, song choice, outfit and staging. Other than that, everything was fine! Says Beatrice (via Hollywood Reporter) ...

The tune in question, “Time After Time” by Cyndi Lauper, just wasn’t much fun to perform, mused the New Jersey teen in a backstage interview. Miller said she loves to listen to the 80s classic, but singing it live was another matter. “I didn’t like it when I performed it, but I mean, I hope that didn’t show,” she said.

That didn’t come as a surprise to her mentor, Britney Spears, who advised the 13-year-old to soldier through it despite her lukewarm — make that ice cold — response to the ballad, which Miller said was assigned to her by producers, not Spears. Miller said she was informed of the theme five minutes before she met with the show’s team of voice coaches last week. “Britney knew that I hated my song this week, but you know, she just said, ‘Get through it and just try to connect with the song,’” Miller revealed. “I don’t think it really mattered to her that I didn’t like it.”

Miller also acknowledged that the mood backstage on Wednesday was “dull,” mainly because many of the contestants were indifferent to the Diva theme week. “I think the majority of us as contestants didn’t like what we were singing this week,” she said. “I don’t think any of us got exactly what we wanted because this week it was all about saluting divas of the older time and whatever, and they kind of made us into the people that we’re singing this week, which was kind of weird. I don’t like that, because it just turns us into people that we’re not.”

 

Beatrice also hates the look the show has forced upon her...

“I was like, ‘I hate this dress and if you don’t take me out of it and put me in some pants, then we’re going to add some funk to this outfit,’ So they were like, ‘Oh, we bought this hat for you and we’re thinking that you should wear it next week,” she laughed. “I was like, ‘Haha, no no no — we’re wearing it now because this outfit is really bad.’”

 

And this is only the tip of the iceberg as many other contestants hated the song they were forced to do...

Many of the contestants were hesitant upon learning what songs they’d be performing, including her teammate Arin Ray (Madonna’s Crazy For You) and Lyric 145 (Katy Perry’s ET and Queen’s We Will Rock You) and Jennel Garcia (Tina Turner’s Proud Mary). “I hated it!,” Garcia told THR earlier this week. “I remember walking into the vocal room and the guys were kinda playing it on the guitar and I was like, ‘I feel bad for whoever is singing that song.’ And they were like, ‘Oh, it’s yours.’ I was like, ‘Oh, well… Damn!’ I was so mad. But you know, we changed it in a way so it could sound like my song.”

 

Turns out Jennel really wanted to do You Oughta Know by Alanis, and Jennel is saying her mentor Demi was pissed off too and had this reaction...

“I think she feels the same way I do,” Garcia says of Lovato. “It’s a little bit frustrating when you know what goes on behind the scenes, and I know she’s really upset over it."

 

And the producers aren't the only one Demi is letting her rage out on as she's also pushed dance coach Brian Friedman under the bus twice, last week behind the scenes and this week live TV saying that the production on stage wasn't at all what she wanted (4:25 mark). But where was Demi and the other mentors all week while things like song choice, choreography and overall production were being set?...

the contestants spent very little time working with their actual mentors. Each song is initially selected by producers, and the contestants’ respective mentors enter the process only one or two days before showtime. At that point, it’s worth noting, many mentors (or producers) will hit their contestants with a change in song just one day, or sometimes only hours, before broadcast. Sometimes the swaps are due to licensing problems, other times, creative differences.

 

Lyric 145 was particularly pissed off with their last minute change...

“We had the best song we could have possibly had. It was our original lyrics, it was the diva of the century, it was perfect. Arguably would have been the best performance we had so far, and that was coming from the inside,” said Lyric Da Queen on Wednesday night. “Last night we got the ball dropped on us that we weren’t going to be able to do the song, and today we got the song that we were doing. It was just chaos.”

 

The fact that the producers control every component of this show (and American Idol) is old news to anyone who's been reading VFTW for a while. The mentoring premise on this show is a joke. Everyone seems to know this except the delusional contestants and Demi. It's nice to see all the enraged bottom feeders speaking up; everyone except Cece Frey, the contestant who should be most enraged of all. I've been blaming Demi for destroying one of the most dynamic contestants to ever be on one of these shows but now I see the blame lies with the producers. Hey X Factor big shots, your show is one of the biggest failures in the history of television. If you want to know why, all you have to do is look in the mirror.

C'mon Cece, stop playing their game. Let your claws come out...right on the producers!

Worstronaut
Posted: 11/16/2012 at 6:06 PM Reply with quote

I honestly wouldn't even be a Worster if these shows were run honestly and the best people won. But when the producers start shoving shit artists down our throat it really inspires me to VFTW. Producers: please quit picking shitty songs and slowing them all the down. It's getting ridiculous how bad these performances are because the contestants all hate their song.

nystargate
Posted: 11/16/2012 at 7:24 PM Reply with quote
Location: Cota Mare

Great article STP!


I get so mad, because people like to blame the themes for the problems when people bomb or the contestants don't like their songs. The problem is the producers not the themes. Themes are great, these shows would be much less interesting without them.


If they were given a large enough list of songs, themes would work fine. There are tons of great Cyndi Lauper songs, why is everyone forced to sing "Time After Time" time after time - see what I did there? LOL


And it sounds like frequently people are now assigned a song, not even given a tiny list to select from anymore. That is extra ridiculous. Not everyone is like Kelly Clarkson who can sing virtually any song. No wonder people sing great in auditions and then terrible on the show.


Whenever people keep singing in their lower register when it is no good - that is a sure fire sign they got assigned a song instead of picking it. Just because people can't sing in a certain key or range - doesn't mean they are bad singers!

butwhatever
Posted: 11/16/2012 at 8:58 PM Reply with quote
Location: Wishing a b**** would

Quote "nystargate":
Whenever people keep singing in their lower register when it is no good - that is a sure fire sign they got assigned a song instead of picking it. Just because people can't sing in a certain key or range - doesn't mean they are bad singers!


Actually it kind of does. Eh, well, it doesn't mean they can't be pop stars, as we know from too many examples to name here. It definitely does mean that, mysteriously, of all the musical professionals involved in the show, somehow *nobody* managed to get the song in a favorable key for the contestant drevil



Last edited by butwhatever on 11/16/2012 at 9:03 PM
Wagner4eva
Posted: 11/16/2012 at 9:49 PM Reply with quote

I posted this in forums as well. Beatrice was a real threat to Sonenplant; she's better looking, and, the exact same age. SO - they show and mention her two moms all the time; they know middle Amerikkka HATES GAYS and they just keep fanning the flames so that Beatrice will be sure to get AXED before Plant..

Antoiletta to Simon & all the producers!!



Last edited by Wagner4eva on 11/16/2012 at 9:49 PM
OldLadySoul
Posted: 11/16/2012 at 10:23 PM Reply with quote
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Quote "Wagner4eva":
I posted this in forums as well. Beatrice was a real threat to Sonenplant; she's better looking, and, the exact same age. SO - they show and mention her two moms all the time; they know middle Amerikkka HATES GAYS and they just keep fanning the flames so that Beatrice will be sure to get AXED before Plant..
Makes sense to me. Beatrice did a stellar job with "Pumped Up Kicks".

alknows
Posted: 11/16/2012 at 10:45 PM Reply with quote
Location: Southern California

First, smarterthanpickler is smarter than a bunch of people smarter then pickler. Always fun to read the recaps and breaking news from the world of karoake! Anyone stunned by the news the producers are running the show (Um, that's what a producer does) probably still believes in the Easter bunny. It's entertainment, first and foremost. The fact that the contestants sing is just an afterthought. If every sob story they throw at people is true, then practically everyone on the show will be broke and homeless if they don't win. I watch it just to be entertained. I refuse to take it seriously. The problem with Carly, I mentioned this somewhere else, is she has a great voice ... for the theater. This week they had her dressed like Celine Dion and she's 13! Beatrice is the anti-Carly I guess. And I love how Carly's Dad is a saint but Mom gets hardly a mention? As talented as Carly is, her commercial prospects aren't that great. Even though I think she's the most talented singer on the show, if I had to invest in her career or Beatrice's, I'd invest in Beatrice. She's like Avril Levine's little sister!

ihatemariolopez
Posted: 11/17/2012 at 12:51 AM Reply with quote

I would take Beatrice over Carley Rose. But what pisses me off about her is the pressure that her "moms" have put on her. My husband and I have to work our asses off to provide for our family, there have been times when we have had to tell our kids "NO" when they wanted money to go somewhere or buy something with. Even when we have money problems we dont discuss it in front of our children IMO that is private and I think its horrible that the producers keep throwing their financial problems in our faces.

GuitarMan
Posted: 11/17/2012 at 1:08 AM Reply with quote

Simon is the front-man, but bows to Producers and Exec's at Fox. They have created a Jerry Springer type of show, heavy on OMG back stories, side-show drama and set a "cast" of contestants for a singing show.


Since they can't eliminate them off the plot like in a scripted drama --

they start throwing-in shots or side-stories that help or hurt; change their songs last minute so they look unprepared, push them into a character that the producers think will be amusing, but not help their chances.


Then their mentors are to tell them that a real artist can sing anything. Which is why Britney Spears made it big in Country, and Toby Keith became the Prince of Pop.


The CheeseX-Factor of this show is high enough that sometimes you have to vote against the evil empire, and pick someone like Lyric, CeCe, Jennel or Beatrice - and vote for them against the well-laid plans of TPTB.


We've already lost Lyric & Jennel, but it's a deep delight to get behind someone with some talent and moxie that might ace-out a couple of the producers/Judges heavy promo red carpet favorites, and carry-on the fight for truth, justice and the American way.


It's not a singing contest in true form anyway. If it were all Hip-Hop, or all Country, or all R&B, rock or Urban Pop - then it might be a singing contest.


It's a popularity contest and the script writers and producers can manipulate, build and destroy a "cast member" by how they use & abuse them - per the article posted above.















ecco6t9
Posted: 11/17/2012 at 2:24 AM Reply with quote

I feel the need to try out next year, a week with a bad song choice and I will sink the ratings so bad they will think lighting stuck the transmitter.

Masterpiece
Posted: 11/17/2012 at 4:09 AM Reply with quote
Location: Boring Countryland

That's why this is called FIX Factor. Its all fixed just like the UK and Australian versions.


Right now in the Australian version, there's already some rumors swirling that its also fixed because before the new season aired they had this advertisement on TV where they were saying that they were gonna create a super group that can be the next One Direction. That 'super group' is already in the finals and people are saying that its all fixed. They want the group to win the show.


http://womansday.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/tvfilmsbooks/8561904/xfactor-sham-the-winner-was-chosen-weeks-ago



Last edited by Masterpiece on 11/17/2012 at 4:13 AM

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